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Every year, there's some sickos on the web that
predict which celebrities will die in the coming year. There's even a way to earn money by betting on the same--although it feels a little immoral to bet on someone's death. Don't get me wrong, I do have my own personal list: Lindsay Lohan, Charlie Sheen and K-Fed... Russell Brandt is on my list too.
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Anyhow, based on this concept,
unperson came up with a completely fabulous idea and I am going to push it as hard as my broke ass can: by starting
The Law School Death List.
As many of you should know by now unless you're flaming, fucking idiots, the number of
LSAT test takers is way down and
admissions at law schools are likewise down since the cat is out of the bag. In most recent news,
Texas Wesleyan School of Law is being sold to Texas A&M. Yah, yah, yah... mutually beneficial, limitless possibilities, joint degrees. I call bullshit.
Texas Wesleyan was probably having difficulty filling seats and folded. So, the question is (drumroll please)
which school is next?
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So, this is how the game works, and I certainly need your help to keep track. In the comments to this post, please guess the name of the next law school that will fold. Fold, for the purposes of this game, is either (1) being sold to another educational institution or (2) closing altogether. If you turn out to be correct and first I will send you a Kindle as a prize. If you have a profile, I will be able to reach you, but if you decide to do it anonymously--just email me your contact info and your guess as well and I will be in touch. But you must list it in the comments or I won't count it. Good luck with The Law School Death List and may the odds be ever in your favor! That's Hunger Games in case y'all didn't know.
If you see the next law school closing and I haven't noticed, please tell me about it. I can't keep track of all the law school news.
Love, hugs and kisses.
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My guess is that Cooley will end up closing one of its TTTT campuses. The bastards and pigs already have four branches in Michigan, and one planned to open in Florida soon.
ReplyDeleteUnder your guidelines, I will venture to say that Rutgers-Camden. Based on a recent post from ITLSS, the sewage pit has only received 107 seat deposits for Fall 2012. At this point last year, more than 240 idiots had put down the money to hold their space. Keep in mind that Fatass Christopher James Christie - a Sopranos wannabe - mentioned a name change with Rowan University. The commode's USN ranking plummeted shortly after the announcement.
A close second: Hamline University Sewer of Law will be sold or close its doors. According to one source, the rats needed to reduce their enrollment for entering lemmings this Fall.
Damn! My money was on Rutgers-Camden. Second choice: Whittier.
ReplyDeleteWhittier, La Verne, Ohio Northern, Western State. I predict at least one of those will announce a closure with 6 months, and none will survive 5 years. I think Cooley will keep its "branch campuses" for longer than these schools will hold out (I mean really, outside of the Lansing location, we're talking about rented strip mall space, right?).
ReplyDeleteGuys... only one designated guess. So far, we've got Cooley, Rutgers-Camden and then Whittier. I'll take the first one you write--no others.
ReplyDeleteMy first choice: Whittier. Everyone knows about that school... except maybe some folks in Minnesota...
ReplyDeleteI'm going to go off the beaten path and go with Hamline in Minnesota. The Twin Cities (not even a top 15 metro area) already has 4 law schools, none of which are placing that well.
ReplyDeleteHamline is rare in that it is a small liberal arts college rather than a traditional university. The school of law only dates back to the 70s, so there's not the strong alumni network of other places, nor the history, nor the strong donor network; in short, who would miss it? St. Thomas has a bigger endowment, and I don't see William Mitchell closing because that's all they are (and they have the most storied history of the three non-UM schools).
If I were on the liberal arts school's board of trustees/directors/whatever, the law school thing isn't a game I want to be playing anymore, so I would start looking to sell to one of the other schools or just get out of the business altogether. The land is more valuable than keeping a dinky law school that can't place well. Heck, it might be worth it for the other three schools to do a collective buy-out and make it a legal aid center to place new graduates and eliminate competition.
It's not like the area will miss the influx of graduates.
If I'm right, I'll forego the Kindle and ask instead that you donate $50 to the American Cancer Society anonymously.
My guess: Golden Gate University.
ReplyDeleteBarry University. Not because I actually think it will go down - it's in Flori-duh after all, there's no limit to lemming and non-lemming stupidity down there - but because its existence is an insult to all right-thinking people and it SHOULD be shut down immediately.
ReplyDeleteHere's hoping.
This is tough to call. So many toilets need to close. The obvious guesses would be one of the TTTTs in Ohio or Florida. Chicago could easily lose a law school and nobody would care. Rutgers-Camden is a good guess. So is Hamline or St. Thomas in Minnesota.
ReplyDeleteI am going to take an outlier, though. I see American University Law Sewer folding up. Here's why. As of July 6, they were still taking new applications for 1Ls. The tuition is 46k. They are in a market with direct competition from much better ranked and / or appreciably cheaper law schools. The job placement numbers are astoundingly bad for the amount of tuition charged. For 2011, American had a 26% unemployment rate. Only 52% of the class reported being in long term employment of any kind (including "business & industry").
American is the kind of school that attracts students who should be smart enough now to realize what a disastrous gamble law school is. American also enrolls classes of about 500 new 1Ls. There is no way American will be able to keep on enrolling 500 lemmings per year who will take out 200k in debt for a 52% chance of long term employment. The lack of tuition dollars will render American incapable of covering overhead costs and it will go under.
Hasn't Shittier Whittier closed yet? Tick, tock, tick, tock...
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ReplyDeleteI'm going to go with the UDC School of Law and Cosmetology. I go to law school in DC, and I didn't know they had a law school until I ran into one of their students at a job fair, which in retrospect is kind of like running into a double-amputee at a dance contest, but I digress.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's the fact that no one knows their school exists, or maybe it's their 18% FTJD employment rate, but UDC will be the next to go.
University of North Texas law school. We already have too many law schools in Texas and sure don't need another.
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna go ahead and play the numbers:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.americanlawyer.com/PubArticleALD.jsp?id=1202563363671&Do_Not_Trust_Deans_Bearing_Versatile_Juris_Doctors&slreturn=1
and guess Valpraisio.
Drexel. New school, part of a larger university. In an EXTREMELY saturated market.
ReplyDeleteI remember when Rutgers Camden was just a poor cousin to Rutgers Newark, which used to be a decent law school. Of course, that was 30 years ago.....
ReplyDeleteI was going to mention Rutgers-Camden. As Nando has already mentioned it, I'll instead nominate Touro. It's expensive and simply can't compete in the NYC Metro Area, and has no standing in the rest of the country. Top NYC firms hire from Columbia, HYS, a couple of other highly-rated law schools in the US, and sometimes NYU and Fordham. Now that people are starting to realize how bad the market is, and how little a Touro JD is worth (especially given what it costs), I would expect applications and enrollments to nosedive. Plus, Touro's parent institution (Touro College) could re-purpose the facilities fairly easily, I should think.
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ReplyDeletePenn State. Not because the law school is particularly bad, but because after the Sandusky law suits run their course they are going to have to shut down the whole university.
ReplyDeleteToo bad to know that there are some law schools that fail to produce good lawyers in the legal community. Perhaps they could run a specific plan, so there won't have any addition to the so called 'The Law School Death List'.
ReplyDeleteWhittier was close to closing when I went to law school in the 90s. How can they keep surviving in this down economy, when law schools are having a tougher time?
ReplyDeleteAnother vote for Whittier. This seems far-fetched, but I heard from a fairly reliable source that they were actually recently on probation due to a low percentage of its students passing the bar.
ReplyDeleteI have heard from a reliable source, that Whittier's board of Trustees has threatened closing the school if the bar pass rate does not improve for July 2012 test takers. Speaking from experience, the faculty put an enormous amount of pressure on students sitting for the exam, attempting to scare them into putting in necessary hours to pass the exam. What Whittier has not understood for the past 20 years, is that the bar passage rate is not the fault of the students, but the poor quality of teaching by faculty members of core subjects...learning Con Law in 2 months from Barbri wasn't that difficult, it was learning it at the same time as Torts, Contracts, Business Association etc....I mean, I would rather spend the $4k on Barbri, than the almost $200k to sit for 3 years in a school like Whittier, just to sit for the bar exam.
ReplyDeleteI think Florida A&M will have lots of controversy but Santa Clara will fold for sure. Horrible little school with lousy ranking for proficiency at the most basic levels.And students should exercise caution when looking at University of Nevada's William S. Boyd School of Law in Las Vegas.
ReplyDeleteWhittier for sure. That place is toast. I've only had the displeasure of knowing one Whittier grad in my life. She was like the living version of Ursula the seawitch from that Disney movie. She was a loud, wannabe rich, Tea Party type cow that would eat you alive if she thought it would help her get a job as a practicing attorney. People used to laugh all the time because she thought she was all that when the only jobs she'd ever held were as a secretary and paralegal - jobs totally fitting for someone with a law degree from Whittier! How do people like that get such a gigantic ego when they went to one of the worst law schools in the US and how on earth do they think they fit in with real Republicans? Of course, nowdays, Ursula's twin does fit in with the "new" Repubs. They're not my grandfather's party anymore, and it seems like all the nasty, wannabe rich types gravitate to that party while the moderate conservatives (the real conservatives) are driven out. How sad.
ReplyDeleteMy nominee is Thomas Jefferson School Of Law in San Diego. They are unknown outside if Southern California and their degree is toxic inside of it. Only a third of a recent graduating class passed the bar. Only a handful of it's graduates get jobs in law firms over 25 persons. They list some grads in business and industry but how many if any have jobs as lawyers? The same may be said of their graduates in government. Last years class lead the nation with an average debt of $146,000. And they have a brand new high rise campus, undoubtedly leveraged. Not much hope here.
ReplyDeleteI second the nomination of Thomas Jefferson School of Law
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