Monday, June 18, 2012

Rip this guy a new one!

An anonymous comment pointed me to a post on another blog entitled "Young, Gullible, Lazy, Unimaginative and Unbelievable: I Wonder Why This Lawyer Has Trouble Finding A Job?"  This post is actually calling bullshit on the 99% sign that I posted yesterday (see below).  The author goes as far as to say:
A law degree is the most versatile and useful degree there is. It is just as useful for getting management jobs in business and politics as it is in law. It is considered a credential for consulting, negotiation, public speaking, and lobbying. I once was hired to run a health care organization that required a medical degree: they couldn’t find a doctor they liked, so the Chairman of the Board said, “Eh, a law degree’s just as good,” and hired me. No prospects? None? What’s wrong with this guy?

Look. I'm as unsympathetic as the next when it comes to people relying on social welfare rather than attempting to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.  I come from a family of immigrants and ALL of my cousins and siblings have managed to go on to the American dream (house, job, kids). I'm actually the most educated of all of them and the poorest.  But the legal profession is something altogether different.  Young lawyers are deserving of sympathy.  After all, they weren't lawyers when they decided to go to law school.  The Legal Industrial Complex actively defrauds our nation's young into spending over $100K for an education that will be worthless, a dead weight, an impediment to our happiness.  That is not a result of our youngs' laziness or stupidity.  It's a crime.  It's a fucking cartel that should be taken down with RICO laws.

And these aren't just any kids that are being bamboozled--its our nation's brightest.  I thought of my readers when I read this line from Zone One by Colson Whitehead.
He'd never had trouble with the American checklist, having successfully executed all the hurdles of his life's stages from preschool to junior high to college, with unwavering competence and nary a wobble into exceptionality or failure.  He possessed a strange facility for the mandatory.
Of course, the book goes on to discuss a zombie apocalypse, but the same line applies to all of those that go to law school.  They aren't losers and should have gotten somewhere accomplishing all the necessary tasks required to succeed in life.  It wasn't that hard, am I right?  But then, law school comes in and weighs them down, sinking them into utter poverty.  We're definitely part of the 99%.

 Please post a comment on HIS blog, not mine, so he knows that the scenario discussed in this sign is common place--and nothing to scoff at.

21 comments:

  1. I made a post over there. Let's see if this Jack Marshall guy has the ethics to post honest comments.

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  2. Jack Marshall has no ethics - or an IQ above 80 - which helps explain why he "serves" as an "ethics coach."

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  3. Did you see Jack's comment to the Post????? I'm livid... and he's a shill:

    I do know what I’m talking about: I worked in law school administration for six years; I worked with law school admission,I work with lawyers and bar associations,my father, sister,and nephew are lawyers, as are most of my associates. The unemployment rates of lawyers is about 1.5%, according to official statistics. I’m sure its comforting to a deadbeat lawyer to think the rate is 30% or higher, but that’s fantasy. A law degree is a versatile grad degree, more versatile than any other. If a lawyer can’t get a legal jobs, then there are plenty of jobs in other fields where a law degree, from any legitimate school, is an edge. Your contention that “most” law schools have “hoards” of unemployed grads is unsupported and unsupportable.There are jobs for them if they want them.

    What did your link have to do with anything, other than the cost of law school? Yup, it’s too high. That wasn’t what the post was about. A lawyer is an independent contractor, and can employ himself or herself, taking court appointed cases if nothing else. There is no excuse for an able lawyer to be unemployed. Your comment is self-serving fiction.

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  4. Any luck with comments? I don't see any new posts.

    Blogs that require approval for comments say a lot about those who run them.

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  5. NM, your comment was posted (right along with his response!). Apparently JACK MARSHALL of ethicsalarms.com has no problem ignoring basic facts and stats in his quest to place all blame on law school applicants, students and grads. Which means that JACK MARSHALL of ethicsalarms.com is taking the side of those who actively engage in fraud. Gotta love those ethics, JACK MARSHALL of ethicsalarms.com!

    I'll post something over there tomorrow morning. But seriously, someone like this needs to read just one chapter of Professor Tamanaha's new book, "Failing Law Schools," which came out this past Friday. The law school system is ethically repulsive. And if JACK MARSHALL of of ethicsalarms.com continues to stand by law schools despite basic facts, well then, it says more about his character than his comment policy does.

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  7. Yes, no evidence at all.

    http://abovethelaw.com/2012/06/aba-employment-stats-are-just-as-dire-as-we-expected/

    Well, we noticed. The numbers are too bad not to notice. Earlier this month we reported on the NALP employment data, and the ABA data here doesn’t look any better. Only 55% of people in the class of 2011 are known to have found employment in full-time legal jobs.

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  8. Some solid work over there by a lot of people at ethicsalarms. It's actually become a pretty interesting ad hoc law school scam discussion site. Thanks for this post.

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  9. Wow.. lots of action over there. From 11 comments to 57 in one day??? Mostly Jason, but still. Why is it that you guys don't like to use your names here--but you do there. Is it because this is a law blawg? :( I don't even care if you use fake names, but I like to see consistency in posting. Like regular posters...
    Good job readers!

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  10. Angel - just read his response to you over there. What a fucking piece of condescending dogshit! "The whole Supreme Court are attorneys, why aren't you using yours to get there!" Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ.

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  11. There quite a few comments in the new thread he started yesterday, as well.

    I have encountered few people as condescending as this guy. And of course, now that he's faced with facts he can't refute, he's turned to the "oh I'm so depressed by this generation" boomer bullsh--.

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    1. At least he says your smart. He thinks I'ma a whiner. And maybe there is a little bit of that tone, but I started this blog because I felt really alone at the time in my misery-wondering if I was the only person who had fallen on my face so badly after such a big investment and I guess it was a call for help or company. I think I started this up the day I got my notice at the big firm, I was crying so hard on my way home that I ended up in the hood and lost and all these people were asking me what was wrong.. and I didn't know what to say, I lost my job, or I'm lost. I looked around and realized that ALL of these people living in public housing are better off than me because I have negative net worth after busting my ass and they were flush--at zero. That was my lowest low. It was fitting really--a true reality check. Like God was saying,"Where the fuck did you think you'd end up? You could be living here, in public housing. You picked the wrong degree and you're as expendable as they come. You're no better than people that haven't even tried. You're either the biggest loser around, or there are people that feel just like you. Go out and see which it is..."

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    2. I don't give a damn what that guy says or thinks about me. Nor should you. I actually thought he seemed like a decent guy when I emailed him asking if I could post with my first name only. I guess I was wrong.

      I think it's great that you started this blog. I read some of your initial posts, but I'll have to keep reading. It's awesome you've been doing it so long. 2009 is pretty far back for blogs talking about these issues.

      And I can understand those feelings. As someone who's life was almost completely destroyed by law school debt, and who only just recently got out of a pretty miserable place in life and in to a much better one, I can sympathize. All one can really do is keep working hard, praying and speaking out. Or whine if you have to. Give it hell.

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  12. Man, what a douche. He should be ashamed of himself.

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  13. "Young lawyers are deserving of sympathy"

    No. They were 22 year olds who were stupid and wanted an easy path to money and esteem from their piers and were too dumb to do their homework.

    I have sympathy for victims of violence and natural disasters. I have chuckled for young lawyers.

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  14. It doesn't surprise me - we're talking about lawyers after all.

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    1. What doesn't surprise you? Jack Marshall of ethicsalarms being an ignorant jackass?

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