tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post6643596617793792804..comments2024-02-23T04:59:26.907-05:00Comments on But I Did Everything Right!: Jobs at Law Schools - JDs Not WantedAngelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07820446523257638689noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-22389750861236184652013-02-19T04:39:56.486-05:002013-02-19T04:39:56.486-05:00Loved reading this article, thank you! Bookmarked ...Loved reading this article, thank you! Bookmarked your blog!Los Angeles Attorney Jobshttp://www.bcgsearch.com/legalmarketsinfo.php?id=2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-79145592603796637072011-02-23T01:32:34.195-05:002011-02-23T01:32:34.195-05:00"As frustrating as it is, I can understand th..."As frustrating as it is, I can understand that these law schools don't want employees who are over-qualified and will probably quit the moment the economy turns around."<br /><br />Considering that there's no guarantee the legal economy will turn around, I doubt that's the motivation.<br /><br />But if I'm the employer, I do one of two things: (a) I hire an experienced office professional (which a Columbia Law Grad is not) at a good salary; or (b) knowing that the labor market is flush with people who would kill to work at a law school, I low-ball the salary. Since Columbia is not a normal business and, I imagine, the person doing the hiring has to give the illusion of their department being important, Columbia chose (a).<br /><br />The NYU ad should be required reading for prospective law applicants. Political science majors would love a job like that. But jobs like that are scarce. So people with political science degrees wind up getting masters in public policy, JDs, PhD's in political science...and then they find out the type of research jobs they want are closed to them because they decided to get more education. (side note: how can it be "entry-level" if paralegal experience is preferred? And what proportion of the job-seeking BA/BS holders have "excellent research, analytic, and writing skills?" I'd guess around 3-5% total).<br /><br />It's a pathetic, fucked up world we live in when more education opens one up to blatant discrimination.J-Doghttp://restoringdignitytothelaw.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-21315342826014489782011-02-21T08:19:32.011-05:002011-02-21T08:19:32.011-05:00thanks for the post. i take a couple of point fro...thanks for the post. i take a couple of point from it. first, despite all of the talk about education opening doors for you, it clearly closes some. you better make sure that the doors are really open. <br /><br />second, if you are stuck with a jd, you don't need more school. be like boyfriend and develop a skill on your own. yes, you are behind, but you'll only waste more time trying to find a law job. wipe your behind with the jd and flush it. get on with your life. you are behind but not out. good luckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-54875380929633115992011-02-20T22:47:42.450-05:002011-02-20T22:47:42.450-05:00A "debtors' revolt"? I don't ex...A "debtors' revolt"? I don't expect you'll see much public support for a bunch of law grads marching in the streets railing against the system because they borrowed too much money and can't repay it. The scene doesn't exactly conjure up images of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison.<br /><br />But I could certainly be wrong so best of luck inducing the systemic collapse that you seek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-60073609835558726362011-02-20T18:42:48.702-05:002011-02-20T18:42:48.702-05:00There is no way to change things – nor have any ho...There is no way to change things – nor have any hope of making our lives better – through playing by the rules, and the political system itself is fully ‘captured,’ so political action is a useless illusion with regard to this issue.<br /><br />As has been pointed out, the incentive system is all screwed up – meaning that it’s in the best interest of the lenders (and their government enablers) to screw us and make it impossible for us to making a living and get out of indenture servitude.<br /><br />I agree with, and am a firm supporter, of the DEBTORS’ REVOLT idea. It’s a really, really bad situation we face – and if you believe that somehow there’s a solution to be had by “behaving” and playing their game, well, you’re almost an *enabler*.<br /><br />I am agitating for debtors’ revolt, and I have no problem with the idea of an Egypt-style uprising. I believe systemic COLLAPSE is one of the only ways out of this. Feel free to contact me further if you are like-minded. Our brave forebears would *not* have tolerated this abuse of power nor the insane rigging of the system – and resource inequality – we see today, and would probably call for acts of disruption if not hands-on “assertion” of our rights to, well, a future, a livelihood, and the ability to provide for our families.<br /><br />JPRJPRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-1910195517639037812011-02-20T10:17:32.472-05:002011-02-20T10:17:32.472-05:00I wanted to show that it is possible to only gradu...I wanted to show that it is possible to only graduate from high school and earn up to $48k per annum for Columbia University while law school graduates are making $14/hour or nothing at all to work at a shitlaw firm. It shows you that a graduate degree does not guarantee that you will make more than someone with only a high school degree or GED. It's incredibly ironic.HardKnocksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-77317558179528732011-02-20T07:13:06.828-05:002011-02-20T07:13:06.828-05:00As frustrating as it is, I can understand that the...As frustrating as it is, I can understand that these law schools don't want employees who are over-qualified and will probably quit the moment the economy turns around.<br /><br />But anyway, I agree with your point. College and law school students should spend their time in school doing internships; doing pro bono work in areas which interest them; making connections; etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-79294831599688492552011-02-19T13:32:57.783-05:002011-02-19T13:32:57.783-05:00e: Chuck Yeager--Are you kidding me? Did the Wrigh...e: Chuck Yeager--Are you kidding me? Did the Wright Brothers have a college degree? Sheesh....this has gotten insane--just meshing comments 1 and 2 together, one can surmise that our true innovators and creators are the ones who did not attend school or soon dropped out so as not to kill their creativity. I think of Steve Jobs now and can only shake my head at my own stupidity of being able to create at a very young age and yet being pushed into attending both college and law school in the first place....<br /><br />The advice in the last two paragraphs should be written in stone for the ages....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-92109073600641497142011-02-19T11:37:34.862-05:002011-02-19T11:37:34.862-05:00Just check out Chuck Yeager. He was kept out of th...Just check out Chuck Yeager. He was kept out of the space program because of his lack of a college degree, thanks JFK & friends. The man is one of the greatest aviators of all time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-57323661570815604072011-02-19T09:06:43.638-05:002011-02-19T09:06:43.638-05:00Education and student loans take away the ability ...Education and student loans take away the ability to try something and fail at it. Student loans destroy innovation and risk-taking. The consequences are incremental.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com