tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post5587648717591895388..comments2024-02-23T04:59:26.907-05:00Comments on But I Did Everything Right!: Guest Post from a Recent GraduateAngelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07820446523257638689noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-27668804322539073682014-07-21T00:26:31.076-04:002014-07-21T00:26:31.076-04:00Sounds like you aren't doing thing right.Sounds like you aren't doing thing right. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-71686990954402240432012-08-24T14:53:23.713-04:002012-08-24T14:53:23.713-04:00The internet is filled with people complaining abo...The internet is filled with people complaining about things that are wrong. People who are doing things right never stop to post of blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-15687539970770416322012-07-05T23:26:37.387-04:002012-07-05T23:26:37.387-04:00I am the original poster and just wanted to update...I am the original poster and just wanted to update. My contract ended at the end of June and I am in the first week of unemployment. Working on getting my sd consolidation loan finalized so I can go on ibr and have signed up for a pro bono service.Redjdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-77820876978576689612012-06-15T20:08:21.370-04:002012-06-15T20:08:21.370-04:00Are you employed: Yes
Where: Solo Law Practice (n...Are you employed: Yes <br />Where: Solo Law Practice (not mine)<br />How many hours per week? 50 - 60 hrs, minimum 6 days a weeks, one week off between x-mas and new years. <br />How much money do you bring home in a month? 2,700.00<br />What are your monthly student loan payments? $300<br />What payment plan are you on? IBR on Fed. <br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance or default? None of those<br />Is your job temporary or permanent? Sort of permanent, but certainly this job won't last more than a year. <br />Does your job provide health insurance? No. <br />Does your job require a J.D? Sort of. I pretty much am doing the same job as my prior position as a clerk, with additional court coverage. <br />What do you actually do for work? Secretary, janitor, brief writer, coverage/hearing attorney, client intake specialist, biller, dog walker, collection agent, document runner, process server, therapist . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-51047762629882841962012-04-05T13:21:38.312-04:002012-04-05T13:21:38.312-04:00Btw, my engineering job is a entry level position ...Btw, my engineering job is a entry level position where I'm still a newbie at many design ways, boss just told me since I'm up to caliber I'll be getting a raise 9 months from now. If you a are a sharp mind person , don't go for law school, go back and do another BS in engineering, this will help you pay off your loans from your previous mistake. There are always more than one type of schools that's out there, don't fall for a law. <br /><br />Also I'm writing this because a friend of mine is thinking about going to law school and telling her in person doesn't see enough to convince her, instead I hope that by giving her this site's address she can read the real experience of law school grads.PBengineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17587455707187146990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-8695722206717977462012-04-05T12:55:57.031-04:002012-04-05T12:55:57.031-04:00I'm a 2011 Grad, from a state university.
Are...I'm a 2011 Grad, from a state university.<br /><br />Are you employed? YES<br />Where? PUBLIC CORPORATION (RAILWAY COMPANY)<br />How many hours per week? 40 STANDARD (but I usually get off early since I'm a salary employee)<br />How much money do you bring home in a month? $4500<br />What are your monthly student loan payments? $60<br />What payment plan are you on? (standard, extended, graduated, IBR) STANDARD<br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance or default? (If yes Which) NO.<br />Is your job temporary or permanent? (If temporary when will it end) PERMANENT<br />Does your job provide health insurance? YES PLUS PAID VACATION, PAID SICK DAYS up to 60 days AND federal holidays.<br />Does your job require a J.D? NO.<br />What do you actually do for work? (i.e. Skadden litigator or sandwich artist) MECHANICAL ENGINEER AT A LOCOMOTIVE COMPANY THAT DOES ELECTRONIC DESIGNS.<br /><br />Moral of the story for those that are still in the decision making process of going to law school or not, if you want to be rich, don't go to law school (unless you are already rich) or else you will get rape by those law schools. <br /><br />BTW I pay $1500 towards my student loan every month, the rest goes to my living expense and my car, I'll have zero debt (school, credit, plus car loans) in about 3 months from now. I'm a recent grad.<br /><br />For those that really like to go to grad school: DON'T BE A LAWYER BE A DOCTOR PLEASE! (WE NEED CHEAPER DOCTORS, I don't like $25 co-pay visit it sucks).PBengineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17587455707187146990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-81183609667104960642012-04-02T13:48:12.809-04:002012-04-02T13:48:12.809-04:00May 2011 graduate
Are you employed? Yes
Where? A ...May 2011 graduate<br /><br />Are you employed? Yes<br />Where? A private company (temp) Solo firm I started a few months ago (when I get clients)<br /><br />(I must say that I did get a position at a very small firm directly out of school but was forced to leave after witnessing the only other attorney assault a client and argue with a judge on how the rules of civil procedure didn't apply to her.)<br /><br />How many hours per week? 40-60<br />How much money do you bring home in a month? ~3000<br />What are your monthly student loan payments? 200 for the bar loan I cant defer. <br /><br />What payment plan are you on? (standard, extended, graduated, IBR) Standard<br /><br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance or default? (If yes Which) Yes, forebearance, all the rest<br /><br />Is your job temporary or permanent? (If temporary when will it end) Private Company job is a temporary position that ends in about 2 weeks<br /><br />Does your job provide health insurance? Not for temporary workers<br /><br />Does your job require a J.D? YesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-32731204499793710012012-03-23T15:57:56.478-04:002012-03-23T15:57:56.478-04:00May 2011 Grad from a Tier 1 school, I'm still ...May 2011 Grad from a Tier 1 school, I'm still unemployed as well. <br /><br />I was slated to to enter the Marine Corps as a JAG officer after graduation but now that the wars are wrapping up my billet got canned and I was told to seek greener pastures.<br /> <br />Military budget cuts aside I've been looking for jobs as an attorney or in quasi-legal positions (e-discovery, higher education, government, etc..). I've had a few interviews since last May, I can count them on one hand (one for a prosecutor job and two for e-discovery project manager jobs). I have actually lost count of how many jobs I've applied for or how many potential employers have strung me along until they decide to go radio silent on me and cease communication. <br /><br />I usually get skeptical looks in interviews when a potential employer sees that I have a JD, as they wonder what utility that degree could possibly provide in their field or I am simply told that 2 years of work as a paralegal prior to law school and three years of internships during law school simply isn't enough job experience. <br /><br />Apparently I was well qualified for the USMC but not for anything else. Not really sure what to do anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-87688716871098517472012-03-02T22:54:34.497-05:002012-03-02T22:54:34.497-05:00Not employed
Law school loan payments will be $75...Not employed<br /><br />Law school loan payments will be $750/month (standard repayment), but I'm currently in forbearance.<br /><br />I have health insurance through a private plan with a $15,000 deductible. It's $150/month.<br /><br />My situation is similar to the commenter above me. I've been turned down for everything from janitor and security guard, to bank teller and truck driver, to adjunct professor and store manager. I spend my days dropping applications for anything that I'm qualified for, or nearly qualified. In some applications, I omit my JD. In others I don't. Either I'm overqualified with the JD, or I omit the JD and am left with a sketchy recent work history of internships and volunteer positions. I have to move out of my apartment at the end of March because I can't pay April's rent. If I don't find work by then, I guess I'll be living in my SUV.<br /><br />Right now, I'm trying to go back into the Army but my vision deteriorated rapidly in law school and I need to get a medical waiver for it. The Army doesn't pay for the optometrist tests, so I'm dropping hundreds of dollars on that (and had to pay for an HIV test, drug screening, and alcohol screening before that, to even be considered for a waiver). This is in hope of receiving orders to report in October. Even if that works out, April to September is a long time to not have an income. My credit cards are nearly maxed and my bank account is empty. When I get back my security deposit, after vacating my apartment, it will be applied to minimum payments on my credit cards, the next installment of my car insurance, my next health insurance payment, and maybe top off my fuel tank.<br /><br />I make Lionel Hutz look successful, by comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-61209136264943917032012-03-02T12:33:24.580-05:002012-03-02T12:33:24.580-05:00Class of May 2011 here.
Not Employed
After gett...Class of May 2011 here. <br /><br />Not Employed<br /><br />After getting rejected for retail jobs (target, best buy, grocery stores etc), I started volunteering at a legal aid agency in a large city (15-20 hours a week) and I am still looking for part-time work. <br /><br />I have 120k+ in loans and all are in deferment or forbearance. <br /><br />I have gotten rejected by banks for teller positions, retail stores for warehouse/cashier positions, by large and small companies for 'human resources' and 'compliance' positions. <br /><br />Who better to advise you on your human resources policies and compliance matters than a licensed attorney? <br /><br />I've gotten a better response as I took off law school (but that's bitten me as well because interviewers ask what i did for the past 3 or so years, and i answer 'graduate school' plus the fact that my resume just has titles like 'legal intern, law clerk, judicial intern, intern' does not help. <br /><br />+ the fact that i went straight from undergrad to law school in 2008 reallyyy hurts because a lot of jobs have required at least one year of full time job experience (which i truthfully cannot say that I have) <br /><br />For comparison, people that graduated with me in 2008 with liberal arts majors have steady gigs paying 30+ k <br /><br />Recently I saw postings on craigslist for an entry-level associate job for 30k, no benefits and expected to work 60+ hours and on saturday. Don't paralegals make more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-1512353493750039822012-02-28T16:32:10.366-05:002012-02-28T16:32:10.366-05:00Are you illiterate? Of the people bringing home $2...Are you illiterate? Of the people bringing home $2000 after loans, one of them has a temp job and will be unemployed in 6 months, one could not get a job as a lawyer, and one has no health insurance or job security. And $24,000 is not a good salary for people who spent SEVEN YEARS in higher education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-39351694001519308142012-02-23T09:27:49.004-05:002012-02-23T09:27:49.004-05:00Non law graduate here. These responses look pretty...Non law graduate here. These responses look pretty good so far. <br />Maybe you don't see 2k a month after loans as a good income, but I do...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-38125411334136633022012-02-12T18:06:46.856-05:002012-02-12T18:06:46.856-05:00It's really interesting to see these responses...It's really interesting to see these responses. I imagine most people don't like to share these. One day I will share my story here, and I hope that I can be as lucky as a couple of you were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-91455138962453489922012-01-31T13:52:02.384-05:002012-01-31T13:52:02.384-05:00Are you employed?: Yes.
Where?: A solo (except fo...Are you employed?: Yes.<br /><br />Where?: A solo (except for me) law firm.<br /><br />How many hours per week?: 20-25.<br /><br />How much money do you bring home in a month?: About $2900.00<br /><br />What are your monthly student loan payments?: $272.00<br /><br />What payment plan are you on?: Graduated<br /><br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance, or default?: No.<br /><br />Is your job temporary or permanent?: Permanent (thougb the partner constantly grumbles about me, suggesting that I will be let go at any moment)<br /><br />Does your job provide health insurance?: No.<br /><br />Does your job require a J.D?: Yes.<br /><br />What do you actually do for work?: Primarily workmens' comp, which I loathe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-2185157099074013202012-01-30T09:17:00.806-05:002012-01-30T09:17:00.806-05:00Are you employed?: Yes.
Where?: A private corpora...Are you employed?: Yes.<br /><br />Where?: A private corporation.<br /><br />How many hours per week?: Fifty to seventy.<br /><br />How much money do you bring home in a month?: About $4,000.00<br /><br />What are your monthly student loan payments?: About $2,000.00<br /><br />What payment plan are you on?: A standard plan.<br /><br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance, or default?: No.<br /><br />Is your job temporary or permanent?: It's permanent.<br /><br />Does your job provide health insurance?: Yes.<br /><br />Does your job require a J.D?: No.<br /><br />What do you actually do for work?: I'm a librarian.<br /><br />I graduated law school in 2004; I've been very lucky to've forged a career using the master's degree I earned in 2005 after realising I'd been had. I do, however, still live in abject poverty and will for at least five more years to service loans, so I've essentially spent my entire productive adult life paying for the mistake of going to law school (I'm thirty-four years old).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-88448556629292762802012-01-28T01:45:27.612-05:002012-01-28T01:45:27.612-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Ruby Clairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01710522322446393469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-53857097541971582712012-01-26T19:58:38.360-05:002012-01-26T19:58:38.360-05:00Angel,
Thank you for putting up the post. my inf...Angel,<br /><br />Thank you for putting up the post. my information is below.<br /><br />Are you employed...Yes<br />Where?... Urban DA's Office<br />How many hours per week? 45-50<br />How much money do you bring home in a month? 3,500<br />What are your monthly student loan payments? 800<br />What payment plan are you on? (standard, extended, graduated, IBR) Law School - Standard, Undergrad - Extended<br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance or default? (If yes Which) No<br />Is your job temporary or permanent? (If temporary when will it end) Yes, 6 month contract<br />Does your job provide health insurance? No<br />Does your job require a J.D? Yes<br />What do you actually do for work? (i.e. Skadden litigator or sandwich artist) Criminal Prosecution<br /><br />Like the poster above, I consider myself very lucky which goes to show how twisted the situation has become for law grads. Good luck all.<br /><br />RedJ.D.RedJ.D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-39722500689402290532012-01-25T23:57:37.967-05:002012-01-25T23:57:37.967-05:00Hey Angel,
I'm a 2010 grad, but still think m...Hey Angel,<br /><br />I'm a 2010 grad, but still think my responses are worthwhile and valuable, so here goes. By the way, I consider myself one of the lucky ones compared to the situations of most of my fellow grads.<br /><br />Are you employed - yes<br />Where? - state/local organization<br />How many hours per week? - 20<br />How much money do you bring home in a month? $1100.<br />What are your monthly student loan payments? Would be around $1100-$1500. (To be honest, not too sure - it was really confusing to understand and I am currently in forbearance for one of my loans and IBR on the other.)<br />What payment plan are you on? (standard, extended, graduated, IBR)- IBR for one loan.<br />Are your loans in deferment, forbearance or default? (If yes Which) Forbearance for another loan.<br />Is your job temporary or permanent? (If temporary when will it end)- permanent<br />Does your job provide health insurance? No. Haha, that's a funny one! Also, I don't get paid holidays, nor vacation.<br />Does your job require a J.D? - Yes - requires either a JD or a Masters.<br />What do you actually do for work? (i.e. Skadden litigator or sandwich artist)- a professional job that is somewhat considered legal.<br /><br />And remember, folks, I am considered one of the lucky ones because when I compare myself with my fellow grads, I fared much, much better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com