tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post3331599148000625706..comments2024-02-23T04:59:26.907-05:00Comments on But I Did Everything Right!: Bet You Didn't Know that Legal Research and Writing was NOT Required at Every Law School.....Angelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07820446523257638689noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-24612794424486035662010-03-08T12:29:02.085-05:002010-03-08T12:29:02.085-05:00Angel, the articles say that a BRIEF WRITING cours...Angel, the articles say that a BRIEF WRITING course isn't required. That's distinct from a Legal Research & Writing course not being required. You can verify that by clicking the link. The article does not say what you say it does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-81958322778916830852010-03-06T01:20:48.551-05:002010-03-06T01:20:48.551-05:00Anon @ 11:14
I didn't come up with this post o...Anon @ 11:14<br />I didn't come up with this post out of my ass. It's been written about by a judge and it comes from an article. If you have qualms with it... you should take it up with them.Angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07820446523257638689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-53066097623786751972010-03-05T14:23:01.726-05:002010-03-05T14:23:01.726-05:00I can verify that the ABA will consider waiving th...I can verify that the ABA will consider waiving the Legal Writing and Research Requirement or allow the school to offer it as a zero credit elective. As a side note, My school considered this route but went against it, thank God. Imagine doing all that work for zero credits and have a full course load beside.<br /><br />According to the site inspection guy, if the class' LSAT scores are high enough; you can waive the requirement. In ABA logic, a high LSAT score means you can magically write a Memo or Appellate Brief. It's just inbreed somehow,- like geese flying South in the Winter. I know a few Vault 100 firms that want to sit the T10 schools/ABA down and review misguided assumption.<br /><br />IS it just me? When you talk to the ABA about school; they love to talk about theory or the BAR Exam pass rate. When I try to talk to them about practical issues or employment, they get glossy eyed and excuse themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-34423760814283829092010-03-05T13:20:35.443-05:002010-03-05T13:20:35.443-05:00I went to UT, class of 2008. This post ranges fro...I went to UT, class of 2008. This post ranges from misleading to flat out false: There is a mandatory legal research and writing course. The brief-writing course is separate and optional. It is not always possible to get in as a 1L, but you typically can get in during 2L or 3L year if you want to. <br /><br />Don't take me word for it: http://www.utexas.edu/law/academics/curriculum/firstyr.html <br /><br />You'll notice "legal research and writing" is one of the required courses. You do write memos in that class, just not briefs (or, at least, not long briefs). That being said, like most legal research and writing courses, it was pretty useless; the profs even insist on using a non-bluebook citation manual that nobody in the real world uses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-27613915910903446502010-03-05T11:14:31.362-05:002010-03-05T11:14:31.362-05:00The 3.3 curve amazes me.The 3.3 curve amazes me.KZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01476445446490314569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-50158506693168302772010-03-05T00:24:02.955-05:002010-03-05T00:24:02.955-05:00Actually UT is one of the better schools, I believ...Actually UT is one of the better schools, I believe UT and Berkeley are the only two high ranked law schools that have an in-state tuition option, which means students at these schools have maybe a third of the debt of those from private schools.<br /><br />I learned nothing in my legal research and legal writing course. Most attorneys will never see the inside of a court room anyway, and won't actually write legal arguments. But even for those that do (I have and do) the general consensus seems to be that legal research and legal writing is really simple. There's really not much you can do actually, you might want to check bigdebtsmallaw I believe he's actually covered what legal writing is. If you've written a law school essay you pretty much know what you need to write, but even if beyond that most states require essays on the bar exam and some require a practical portion of the exam as well. You learn most of the law you need from bar/bri, so if you didn't know how to perform legal writing well you can learn that form there too.<br /><br />I think the legal writing classes are another total waste of time in law school and the last vestiges of the scam hype train for what law school prepares you for. Law school should only be a year long, and if you want a writing course in that year that's fine, but I don't think it makes one iota of difference. If that's the only legal writing you've done between law school and as an attorney, you'd have forgotten how to do any of the work in the 2+ years anyway. I don't agree that this is a problem at all.JLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5452025352696285200.post-17322122884750326192010-03-04T23:35:33.301-05:002010-03-04T23:35:33.301-05:00L.O.L. Good find, Angel. I developed better writin...L.O.L. Good find, Angel. I developed better writing and research skills in college than in law school while having more fun and paying less money. Friends have admitted to me that they became dumber in law school because there were very few classes that taught practical skills. I felt that I had wasted three years of my life and left law schools with only one legal research and writing class that had somewhat prepared me for firm work. The class was dreadful and I hated it but learning how to do research on Lexis and Westlaw was probably the only practical skill from law school that I still use and could apply in another field. How any law school thinks they can get away with this is beyond my comprehension.HardKnockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08188805912579205968noreply@blogger.com